Comments on: Eczema As Koan Part 3: The Way Out https://guyjames.com/2014/08/24/eczema-as-koan-part-3-the-way-out/ Stratospheric Analogue Juice Tue, 04 Oct 2016 08:39:57 +0000 hourly 1 By: Guy https://guyjames.com/2014/08/24/eczema-as-koan-part-3-the-way-out/#comment-2431 Wed, 27 Aug 2014 07:48:52 +0000 http://guyjames.com/?p=3346#comment-2431 Thank you Herb, glad it was useful. 🙂

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By: Guy https://guyjames.com/2014/08/24/eczema-as-koan-part-3-the-way-out/#comment-2430 Wed, 27 Aug 2014 07:43:25 +0000 http://guyjames.com/?p=3346#comment-2430 Thank you. An important aspect to this is that it is necessarily ‘messy’ – the feelings and energies that come with illness are dark and unruly and we just have to get through it as best we can. Ultimately by surrendering we find out that the phrase ‘this moment is all there is’ is not merely a new age cliché, that it describes a vital reality… this is what is being shown to me anyway.

Wishing you all the best in your healing journey.

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By: tc https://guyjames.com/2014/08/24/eczema-as-koan-part-3-the-way-out/#comment-2429 Wed, 27 Aug 2014 07:31:10 +0000 http://guyjames.com/?p=3346#comment-2429 Yes it is helpful, thanks very much Guy. Yours is an inspiring story. I wouldn’t say I am fighting illness but I am definitely engaging with it and looking deeply into it for its lessons. And I hope that doing that (and other stuff) will pull me through it and out the other side. As for surrender, I can at least surrender now, in this moment, to this moment, like you suggest. Thank you. Go well.

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By: Guy https://guyjames.com/2014/08/24/eczema-as-koan-part-3-the-way-out/#comment-2403 Tue, 26 Aug 2014 18:22:09 +0000 http://guyjames.com/?p=3346#comment-2403 Thanks for the comment. Yes, the idea of surrender does sound like that, but I am pointing towards a more complete surrender than that, where any idea of control or a desired future is given up. When I surrendered, I was surrendering the person who wants anything to be different from how it is, the one who is struggling, the one who doesn’t want to be ill, and yes, there was the feeling that I was just accepting the illness. But quite frankly I had gone past the point of caring about anything; I accepted it was out of my control, because I had no choice but to do so. I just gave up absolutely everything, including the idea of ‘a future’ wherein I might be well or ill. And paradoxically, once I stopped resisting being ill from a deep level, things started to get better. So in a way it was something which happened out of deep despair, not even a decision, just like a natural process, as if the clouds were broken by the Sun. I realised that ‘what you resist, persists’ is very deeply true.

The only thing is, I don’t think you can ‘manufacture’ this situation, like ‘I will surrender in order to get better’ – that’s just more resistance. But you may already be in the situation without realising; you might already be deeply desperate to give up, in fact it sounds like it, and the thought ‘…but then I’ll be ill forever’ is stopping you doing that. What you actually need is inner rest, and that thought is blocking it. Just as an experiment, put that thought to one side and let yourself try giving up for a little while. You may find that the resulting rest actually makes you feel better. And remember, you can rest while part of you is still tense – there is a level of habit to this so don’t expect to be totally relaxed immediately; you may or may not be. You can rest with the tension, if you like.

Our culture is very big on ‘fighting’ illness and ‘staying strong’ – but I think a lot of this is just our hyper-masculine way of thinking; that we need to overcome things and ‘beat’ them. This can probably work in some cases but overall it is probably counterproductive – the illness is not something external to us, but an inner process which is deeply part of us, telling us that adjustments need to be made. To fight it is like not listening to your friend when they are telling you the very truth you really need to hear. Also I think there is a kind of embarrassment in our culture about illness, a desire to sweep it under the carpet quickly: ‘ah so you’re ill eh, well stay strong and keep fighting and you’ll beat it!’ So then we can stop thinking about it and turn away from the uncomfortable facts as quickly as possible. Obviously it’s not good to be morbidly fascinated by illness but I think our industrialised culture has gone to the other extreme. That was a longer answer than I expected but I hope it was useful. 🙂

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By: tc https://guyjames.com/2014/08/24/eczema-as-koan-part-3-the-way-out/#comment-2396 Tue, 26 Aug 2014 08:35:24 +0000 http://guyjames.com/?p=3346#comment-2396 Hi Guy
Thanks so much for this, there’s lots to digest here. One thing that I’d like to ask you about is surrender and victimhood. Since my diagnosis last year with an autoimmune condition, I have been seeking, striving, searching for healing in lots of different ways. And I’ve come across this notion of surrender but to me it feels like giving in, i.e. accepting the role of victim to this illness, ‘Yes fine, I’ll just be ill the rest of my life.’ Is there anything you could say about that please?
TC

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By: Herb J Schneider https://guyjames.com/2014/08/24/eczema-as-koan-part-3-the-way-out/#comment-2394 Tue, 26 Aug 2014 01:26:35 +0000 http://guyjames.com/?p=3346#comment-2394 Thank you. Wonderful!

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